Understand and command is the center of this T.L. Osborn sermon. Typical, he claims, of his sermons, calling people to see and believe Jesus the Christ.
I find it very encouraging to consider that in Christ we are far about principalities and powers. Still, we the church have generally not understood this Paul’s, and T.L.’s point. We still fight demons.Check out what he says.
It seems to me that also this leads to a great vision of who sons of God should be. Confident. Understanding. Commanding over evil.
It clearly contrasts a words perspective and the proper grace perspective — and why there is a different.
I also appreciated his words about the women in the Upper Room. Check it out.
Category Archives: Sonship
Sonship Assumes Fatherhood
And obvious truth: to be a son, there has to be a father. Another obvious truth: that we are children of God at all, depends upon the love of the Father.
So how did we miss this in our discussions (so many years ago) about sonship? Let’s go over basic scriptures, to see what they really say. A little Greek, but mostly just the flow of the original argument, establishes that sonship is about growing in what was given us in our birth — rather than about some new “gospel” of works, etc.
I think you will rejoice when you get the idea.
Mentioned as preaching sonship rooted in the love of God: Dan Nori’s course hosted by Joseph Peck, January 2019, and Johnny Enlow’s Rise 7 podcast #133 and #87.
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What Does a Mature Son of God look like?
A Clear idea of what a mature Son of God looks like. This answers “what about eschatology?” and “What about 7M?” Quick mention of Rev 12 and I Thessalonians 5. What does a Son of God look like? Like JESUS. See Acts 10:38. So let’s see every one de-oppressed. How about that?
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History of the Latter Rain
Although probably many of the members of the “Sam Fife – Body of Christ- Move of God” do not know it, their doctrine and methods largely came from the Latter Rain, a movement started in North Battleford Saskatchewan in 1948. They started as a prophetic movement, had five fold ministries, used typological preaching, and had conventions on the holidays. George Hawtin and George Warnock where among the leaders. They still exist. I relate just a bit about the history of the founding here.
Sites you might find interesting, in relation to this topic:
About GEORGE R. HAWTIN – Kingdom Resources
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Widely acknowledged as a “father of the latter rain movement,” along with his brothers Ernest and Phillip, George Hawtin was a popular teacher and expositor, traveling and teaching Bible Truth both near and far.
Also, this site gives an address to obtain books: http://sonplace.com/Hawtin/GH_index.htm :The writings of George Hawtin and A. P. Adams are available from: Treasures of Truth P.O. Box 99 Eagle, Idaho 83616 USA
The Official Site of the Writings of George H Warnock
Welcome to the personal website of George H Warnock, servant of the Lord Jesus. This website was set up years ago by dedicated volunteers who desired to have this exclusive site for books and writings authored by George H Warnock. Although he had never been on the internet himself, he authorized this website to be produced, creating a forum for all of his books to be freely available online.
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#N#Welcome and gracious greetings to our website! Inventory is so low, or completely out. Check the List of Books page to see what we have available. You can also order these three books from eGenCo from their website www.eGen.co “Jesus The Pattern Son”, “Sons of God Awake” and “Hebrews-The Book of Better Things” in book form or as an eBook. On …
Feel free to suggest other best resources.
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I Will Ascend 2
Continuing our thought, we talk about thinking one is better than others simply because one has accepted the sonship message.
Let’s keep the feast of unleavened bread. Let’s remember, Jesus is the firstfruits. We are in Him because of God’s grace, His faithfulness, and our identification with Jesus in baptism. That is what the Bible says.
Something else, is off the path. Something like vaunting our selves is more like what Lucifer did. Let’s don’t go down that path.
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I Will Ascend 1 of 3
I have always said there is a fine line between sonship doctrine and the “I will ascend” doctrine. I thought other people said it too. In any case, let’s make that line very clear, highlighted, and noticed — so we all back away from it. Let’s not go over it. Satan has always perverted truth. That is his method. And the greater the truth, perhaps the more concerted and perverted is the twist.
This is not the last podcast, but it is the one (or 3) that perhaps is the most important, the one without which I couldn’t advertise the podcast. Thank God, I finally got it up, in time for Passover and Resurrection Sunday in 2020. So much is going on. So quickly. This seems so behind, but I am working as fast as I can.
Please share. Please share it with people who are confused and upset about this issue. I hope it helps a lot.
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Answer to Covid-19 Hidden in Purim Story
Several things in the Purim story (Esther, Mordecai and Haman) are very prophetic. What I noticed today is that the King himself didn’t undo the bad decree, but let Esther and Mordecai head up the routing of Haman’s plans. The King, however, did take care of Haman, who died on his own gallows.
We were told by more than one prophet that there would be a shaking this spring. The world is certainly shaken by the covid-19 corona virus. It is proving a great time for China’s people and government to see how helpful the Christians have been, risking their lives to help others, identified in yellow jackets. It would be a great time for Christians here to prove themselves helpful: non-fearful, non-greedy, and compassionate. Certainly, many are calling us to prayer. Many have urged more prudence than the governments and official medical folks are offering. I always have a virus protocol, scientifically cited on my GreatShalom.org site (a list of supplements like garlics and over the counter sometimes very counter-intuitive things). Dr. Braverman and Dr. Gabriel Cousens are circulating their suggestions (hydration and essential oils and homepathics respectively). Perry Stone ended his prayer meeting tonight with some basic ways to build up immunity including Vitamin C and Vitamin D and elderberry juice. More than one of us have remembered John G. Lake’s experience helping in the plague in South Africa. Plague germs would die when they touched him — verified under a microscope.
Let’s us stand up as sons and daughters of God and be like Jesus. If our immunity is built up as much as John G Lake’s good, but whatever level we are, let us pick up the weapons and gifts we have — and not lay them slack on the ground mesmerized and paralyzed by the enemy. No! We remember the heart of what we were about: Jesus. We follow Jesus. Let’s do what Jesus would do. Amen.
Blessings of health, healing, wholeness, wisdom and God’s peace be to you, yours, your city and your nation. Amen.
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Wesley Gave a Good Foundation for Sonship Doctrine
If one wishes to build a tall building, and not have it fall down, then a good foundation is in order. Since John Wesley was the first person known to preach perfection, and since he had no scandals and is agreed to have been a responsible and charismatic leader, let us see — and pay attention to — the foundation he laid.
More recent sonship movements have become skewed, faltering, and even perverse when they left the basic doctrine of salvation. Let’s review those in Wesley’s 4 point sermon that he gave all helpers. He made it simple so that uneducated men and women could preach. Here are the 4 points: All people must be saved. All people can be saved. All people can know they are saved. All can be saved to the uttermost/max. (Modern language.)
If we forget that Jesus’ work saved us, we get off track. However, we have not gone the full way if we don’t consider that we can be saved to the max. That is sonship.
BTW, there is more from Wesley on the podcast. Please be sure you are subscribed on a podcast platform. Doesn’t look like I have up a way to subscribe to this blog. If you want that, you may let me know. Thanks.
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“Sons of God” shows up in Scripture
WOW! I recently found out that ” ‘uois” the Greek work for mature sons shows up in Scripture 7 times. AMAZING.
And with all the preaching I have heard on sonship doctrine, I never heard this. Have you?
If you are new to sonship doctrine, this will establish what is up — that there are such a thing as mature, human offspring of God. BTW, in the plural, in Greek, sons and daughters would be rendered “sons.” So I say “sons” in English, but that is NOT intended to exclude women, even though English has changed on this point.
If you are not new, you will find some surprises here. Firstly, the Greek doesn’t match up to the King James English, so at least one passage that we started with is out. It makes a big difference to the method. Then, there is another passage that is in. The English doesn’t make it clear that the children/sons being mentioned are mature. Once again, it makes a huge difference — in method.
Please share this with those interested. You might leave a 5 star rating on iTunes or your favorite podcast. While it is vulnerable to let people know about this and who I am, still, I think it so very important for the freedom, salvation, and encouragement so very many.
Editor: oops, more than that. Found some more. Working on final count. More than 7, anyway.
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Sonship is Real
Today we prove from the Bible that there are “sons of God” who are humans. We are looking for the Greek word for mature sons, “‘UIOS.” This word is normally used of Jesus. A Roman adoption in which a rich father recognizes his grown son as being in business with him and able to represent the family uses this word “‘uios.” Other words possibly translated as sons or as children include napios (babies that wear diapers), paideon (school children, moppets), and technon (teenagers.) In I John 3 “Now we are the sons of God” is technon. Now we are the teenagers of God, and it does not yet appear what we shall be… but we will be like Him.”
There are 7 mentions in the New Testament of ‘uios, mature sons. Have you ever heard this? It is a shock to me that I have never ever heard a sermon listing all 7 mentions. Even though I have heard hundreds of hours of one sort sonship preaching. (Oops… maybe there are more… will get back to you on that… but at least there are these 7.)
What do you think the reason is that no one has listed them?
Matthew 5:9 peacemakers will be called the sons of God
Luke 20:36 sons of the resurrection
Galatians 3:26 and 4:6&7 Now we are sons by faith.
Hebrews 2:10 Jesus is our Big Brother and brings many sons to glory; Also see Hosea 1:10
Romans 8:14 & 19 Verse 14 is in the present tense: the Sons of God are led by the Spirit of God. Verse 19 is in the future: “the manifestation of the sons of God.”
And on perfection: Matthew 5:48 Perfection is possible now, and is based on love, also see Phillipians 2:15
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